romney is rigid and stays on track. how do these two face off without ticking each other off i guess? >> i don't think they do. i think we see sparks fly. when he was getting interrupted by them. again, president obama interrupted john mccain routinely back in 2008. so we really have a recipe for some snujing back and forth. i don't know jim is going to be able to prevent that. it is a bigger deal for romney because he's behind in the polls and had that gaff a couple weeks ago. come off looking good or fall further in the pack >> that seems to be the general consensus. obama seems to be able to stay on the path, he should be fine. mitt romney needs the game change to happen. and campaign is building this up. they are the ones who are saying we're going to reboot. first it was the conventions, then the vice presidential pick. if he's not able to come out and he's done five full debate preps at this point. >> yeah. he may be too ready. >> yeah. he definitely this is his big chance and people understand that. >> good theat